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LA DOUANE DE DEMAIN, A CHACUN SES \u00c9TONNEMENTS<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

Par Alban Gruson, Pr\u00e9sident Directeur G\u00e9n\u00e9ral<\/h4>\n

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Le r\u00e9cent Colloque de l\u2019Odasce f\u00eatait le cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire de cette association.
\n<\/span><\/strong>Tous les ingr\u00e9dients \u00e9taient r\u00e9unis\u00a0:<\/span><\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>
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Le lieu<\/strong> :
\nBiarritz avec vue sur mer<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>

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Les participants :<\/span><\/strong>
\nenviron 450<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>

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Les th\u00e8mes abord\u00e9s :<\/span><\/strong>
\ndouane horizon 2030<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>

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La restauration :<\/strong><\/span>
\nLucullus dine chez Lucullus<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>

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Et de l'avis de chacun,<\/strong><\/span>
\nce fut une r\u00e9ussite<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>

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Sans oublier le final de Denis Redon avec son habituel \u00ab rapport d\u2019\u00e9tonnement \u00bb qui \u00e0 lui seul constitue un temps fort du colloque que tous les participants ne manqueraient pour rien au monde. <\/span>Pour ma part, au travers des tribunes et des ateliers, j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 interpell\u00e9 par un certain nombre de points que je me permets de soumettre \u00e0 votre sagacit\u00e9.<\/span><\/h4>\n

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LA DOUANE DU FUTUR SERA-T-ELLE D\u00c9MAT\u00c9RIALIS\u00c9E DE BOUT EN BOUT ?<\/strong><\/span><\/h4>\n

\"Douane-dematerialisation-avenir\"Tout d\u2019abord le comit\u00e9 europ\u00e9en des sages et son \u00e9tat des lieux accompagn\u00e9 de propositions d\u2019am\u00e9liorations. <\/span>
\nL\u2019id\u00e9e de capter directement la donn\u00e9e \u00e0 la source commerciale n\u2019est pas nouvelle contrairement \u00e0 ce qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 dit. C\u2019est une tentation constante des administrations depuis que l\u2019informatisation est apparue. Ce qui est nouveau c\u2019est d\u2019affirmer p\u00e9remptoirement que ce sera la r\u00e8gle de demain. Je pense qu\u2019il y a encore un long chemin \u00e0 parcourir pour y parvenir. Ce chemin est parsem\u00e9 de certaines embuches juridiques, technologiques.<\/span><\/p>\n

Une telle organisation signifierait-elle qu\u2019une donn\u00e9e g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9e par un op\u00e9rateur de l\u2019autre bout de la plan\u00e8te s\u2019imposerait ipso facto dans le pays de destination de la marchandise sans contr\u00f4le de la part de son destinataire ? Cela signifie-t-il que les administrations seront en mesure et assumeront la d\u00e9termination des droits et taxes applicables et le montant \u00e0 percevoir ? <\/span>Ce n\u2019est plus une \u00e9volution, mais une r\u00e9volution ! Ne serait-ce qu\u2019au regard du dispositif de \u00ab self assessment \u00bb ou auto liquidation pr\u00e9vu dans le CDU. <\/span>Je vous laisse le soin d\u2019y r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir.<\/span><\/p>\n

UNE AGENCE DOUANE EUROP\u00c9ENNE, QUELS AVANTAGES EN ATTENDRE ?<\/span><\/strong><\/h4>\n

\"Agence-Douane-avenir\"Autre proposition : celle de la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019une \u00ab \u00ab agence douane \u00bb qui serait l\u00e0 pour veiller \u00e0 la bonne application des dispositions r\u00e9glementaires au sein de l\u2019Union Europ\u00e9enne. Sorte de police des polices qui sanctionnerait les \u00e9tats membres d\u00e9faillants afin de faire r\u00e9gner sur le Territoire de l\u2019Union une uniformit\u00e9 de traitement des aspects douaniers. Un tel projet, outre qu\u2019il ajoute encore un \u00e9tage \u00e0 la fus\u00e9e europ\u00e9enne, ne fait que mettre en exergue les distorsions de traitement li\u00e9es \u00e0 des aspects de concurrence douani\u00e8re et \u00e9conomique entre les \u00e9tats membres. La question se pose des pouvoirs qui lui seraient accord\u00e9s pour assurer une telle mission\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n

L\u2019aspect digitalisation a \u00e9galement \u00e9t\u00e9 l\u2019objet d\u2019un certain \u00e9tonnement car en tout \u00e9tat de cause, les entreprises y vont avec des pieds de plomb. Ce n\u2019est que sous la contrainte qu\u2019elles \u00e9voluent peu \u00e0 peu vers cette modalit\u00e9 d\u2019organisation de leur activit\u00e9. Malgr\u00e9 les nombreux travaux r\u00e9alis\u00e9s pour parvenir \u00e0 une transmission \u00e9lectronique de l\u2019information de bout en bout, on est loin du compte.<\/span>
\nEt ce n\u2019est pas sans avoir nous-m\u00eame contribu\u00e9 aux programmes europ\u00e9ens tels que CORE et SELIS.<\/span>
\nMais force est de constater que seule l\u2019obligation administrative est de nature \u00e0 contraindre les entreprises \u00e0 avancer dans ce domaine. J\u2019en veux pour exemple la future facturation \u00e9lectronique pr\u00e9vue en UE et prochainement obligatoire en France. <\/span>Il ne s\u2019agit plus de cr\u00e9er un PDF mais bien de constituer un ensemble de donn\u00e9es en un message \u00e9lectronique valant facture. Est-ce que cela va enfin g\u00e9n\u00e9rer le d\u00e9clic tant attendu\u00a0?<\/span><\/p>\n

ICS2, VERS UN NOUVEAU SCH\u00c9MA D\u2019ORGANISATION ?<\/span><\/strong><\/h4>\n

\"ICS-DOUANE-avenir\"Il faut \u00e9galement noter le nouveau sch\u00e9ma d\u2019organisation d\u2019ICS2 qui a pour objectif de permettre \u00e0 plusieurs intervenants de compl\u00e9ter le jeu de donn\u00e9es requis \u00e0 l\u2019arriv\u00e9e. Je ne parviens toujours pas \u00e0 me projeter sur le terrain des op\u00e9rations. La question est de savoir qui dispose de quoi \u00e0 quel moment. Le tout orchestr\u00e9 sous la responsabilit\u00e9 du transporteur international. Vendeur, freight forwarder, transporteur, destinataire, chacun dispose d\u2019un certain nombre de donn\u00e9es. Mais qui va op\u00e9rer leur transmission sous forme de message vers l\u2019UE ? Combien de messages compl\u00e9mentaires faudra-t-il relier pour obtenir la totalit\u00e9 des donn\u00e9es requises ?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Il va falloir que tout ce petit monde s\u2019organise\u2026. Mais quelle n\u2019a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 ma surprise de constater que malgr\u00e9 la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019une plateforme centralis\u00e9e europ\u00e9enne, l\u2019analyse de risque reste trait\u00e9e nationalement par chaque \u00e9tat membre. D\u00e9cid\u00e9ment, le concept d\u2019union europ\u00e9enne a bien du mal \u00e0 s\u2019imposer ! Nul doute que des diff\u00e9rences existeront qui provoqueront \u00e0 terme des d\u00e9tournements de trafics vers les \u00e9tats moins exigeants. L\u2018expression \u00ab des \u00e9tats dans l\u2019\u00e9tat \u00bb prend toute sa dimension. <\/span>Mais les prochains colloques organis\u00e9s d\u2019ici 2030 nous apporteront peut-\u00eatre quelques \u00e9claircissements sur ces diff\u00e9rents points.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

LA DOUANE DE DEMAIN, A CHACUN SES \u00c9TONNEMENTS Par Alban Gruson, Pr\u00e9sident Directeur G\u00e9n\u00e9ral   Le r\u00e9cent Colloque de l\u2019Odasce f\u00eatait le cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire de cette association. Tous les ingr\u00e9dients \u00e9taient r\u00e9unis\u00a0: Le lieu : Biarritz avec vue sur mer Les participants : environ 450 Les th\u00e8mes abord\u00e9s : douane horizon 2030 La restauration : Lucullus dine chez Lucullus Et de l’avis de chacun, ce fut une r\u00e9ussite<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8507,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[151],"tags":[],"sp_smart_badges":[],"class_list":["post-8511","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-communiques"],"yoast_head":"\nLa douane de demain - Conex France<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Le r\u00e9cent Colloque de l\u2019Odasce f\u00eatait le cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire de cette association. 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